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Asked: December 18, 20202020-12-18T11:03:13+00:00 2020-12-18T11:03:13+00:00

Is the timeframe important for the robot?

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Does it matter to the robot what timeframe I have on the chart now? Here I have a robot connected, which showed, in the tester, a good result on the watch. I set it up and connected it, and now I want to watch the daily one. Do I need to open another chart window?

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    1. igoreremenko

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      2020-12-22T07:00:59+00:00Added an answer on December 22, 2020 at 7:00 am

      GAGARIN:
      Does it matter to the robot what timeframe I have on the chart now?

      “what is my current timeframe on the chart -” – no, it does not matter how you open the TF now

      It is important to use the bot on the TF on which it showed satisfactory (in your opinion) results during testing

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      2020-12-18T11:04:05+00:00Added an answer on December 18, 2020 at 11:04 am

      Vitaly Muzichenko:

      that’s right, for trading!

      If the program resets the values when switching the timeframe, then this is not for trading, but for the tester

      First of all, robots are mostly designed for automatic trading. I.e. set up and forgot. there are of course exceptions such as
      the panel for trading or there is a robot only accompanying the position. Tick advisors (like I have now) they also do not depend on the timeframe. But
      when you switch TF is re-initialization of the variables. 

      It is stupid to switch a robot configured for a minute TF to an hour chart. Here at least your sets are needed for trading on the clock. 

      as for the robots for the tester, they are very suitable for trading if they are written correctly. For the tester, you can disable some
      checks to optimize the code in the tester and especially in the optimizer. for example, if the robot is tested on only one symbol, then it
      is not necessary to compare the chart symbol with the order symbol in the tester and it is quite slow. Optimization without such a check is accelerated
      several times. 

      at the same time, you can combine the necessary checks in the trading robot and in the robot for automation using istesting() and isoptimization().

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      2020-12-22T07:00:59+00:00Added an answer on December 22, 2020 at 7:00 am

      GAGARIN:
      Does it matter to the robot what timeframe I have on the chart now? Here I have
      a robot is connected, which showed, in the tester, a good result on the watch. I set it up and connected it, and now I want to
      view the daily report. Do I need to open another chart window?

      Of course, the robot does not care what timeframe. You can run it in the tester and get different results.

      To switch to a different timeframe, it is better to open a new chart.

      but there is still a lot that depends on the robot itself, how it is written, and what timeframe it was designed for.

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      2020-12-22T07:00:59+00:00Added an answer on December 22, 2020 at 7:00 am
      Is the timeframe important for the robot?

      GAGARIN:
      no matter how much i redo it all the same
      it turns out long, and on

      descending
      the trend always merges, even if it is connected after the reversal. What to do?:(((

      in the properties of the expert advisor in mt4. or simply remove the ability to open in short from the code

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      2020-12-22T07:01:00+00:00Added an answer on December 22, 2020 at 7:01 am

      Vitaly Muzichenko:

      So does anyone else write programs?

      what’s so wrong with that ? I run robots in the auction and do not climb into their activities with my hands at all. i do not change or re-
      open new charts. regarding the new price – this is due to clearing on the moscow exchange where i trade, so it is not possible to directly
      request the price from the api methods of the terminal, since there it will come updated. You can iterate through the history from the current moment to the beginning
      opening positions, in some robots, this is how i get the opening price, then clearing does not affect me, but for me it is not critical,
      because all the algorithms that i use, i do not sell and only a narrow circle of people have access to them, so everything is fine. in all other respects, these are quite
      good and stable programs, all with the help of oop are written, not what a bunch of spaghetti is not. so to criticize without seeing what i’m talking about is not
      entirely appropriate.

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      2020-12-18T11:03:48+00:00Added an answer on December 18, 2020 at 11:03 am

      no matter how much i redo it , it still turns out to be long, and on a downtrend it always merges, even if i connected it after a reversal. What to do?:(((

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      2020-12-18T11:03:44+00:00Added an answer on December 18, 2020 at 11:03 am

      GAGARIN:
      does it matter to the robot what timeframe i have now on
      graphics? Here I have a robot connected, which showed, in the tester, a good result on the watch. i set it up and connected it, and now
      i’d like to see the daytime one. Do I need to open another chart window?

      if you use an indicator that changes the signal when switching tf-mov, then of course it is important

      if the expert advisor in the tester gives different results when changing the tf-ma, it is also important

      if you want to use the same expert advisor in a different window, then for a number of reasons, there may be problems that will lead to instability of the expert
      advisor

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      2020-12-22T07:01:00+00:00Added an answer on December 22, 2020 at 7:01 am

      Alexey Viktorov:

      This is beyond reasonable. So I didn’t even pay attention to it.

      By the way I think to determine whether the owl stability when changing TF and other preinitial possible on the basis of whether
      the input parameters of TF, if there is, then most likely everything is OK, if not – it already depends on code.

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      2020-12-22T07:01:00+00:00Added an answer on December 22, 2020 at 7:01 am

      GAGARIN:
      Does it matter to the robot what timeframe I have on the chart now?
      Here I have a robot connected, which showed, in the tester, a good result on the watch. I set it up and connected it, and now I want to
      view the daily report. Do I need to open another chart window?

      It is better not to even try, only the simplest robots without indicators and on the basis of constant analysis of orders or simple setters will tolerate
      this, in any complex variant, the probability of catching a glitch is 0.9999…. 🙂

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      2020-12-18T11:03:32+00:00Added an answer on December 18, 2020 at 11:03 am

      Andrey Azatskiy:

      Still not the fact that it will be possible. The robot when changing the timeframe seems to be reinstantiated, and accordingly all the data that is in the
      variables in the global visibility zone, or fields of classes stored-will be forgotten… 

      For example, I have many bots opening price just in the class field write constantly, and after clearing it will change and if the bot
      if you re-install it, it will write down the wrong price.

      This is beyond reasonable. So I didn’t even pay attention to it.

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      2020-12-18T11:03:26+00:00Added an answer on December 18, 2020 at 11:03 am

      Vitaly Muzichenko:

      So does anyone else write programs?

      there is actually a forum for writing programs for trading.

      ps just don’t tell anyone ! you know…

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      2020-12-18T11:03:23+00:00Added an answer on December 18, 2020 at 11:03 am

      Andrey Azatskiy:

      Still not the fact that it will be possible. The robot when changing the timeframe seems to be reinstantiated, and accordingly all the data that is in the
      variables in the global area of visibility, or the fields of the class kept –

      they will be forgotten… 
      For example, I have many bots.
      the opening is simply recorded in the class field constantly, and after clearing it will change and if the bot is reinstantiated, it is no longer the same price
      write it down.

      So does anyone else write programs?

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      2020-12-22T07:01:00+00:00Added an answer on December 22, 2020 at 7:01 am

      Alexey Viktorov:

      Depends on the programmer who wrote this Expert Advisor. If it says PERIOD_CURRENT everywhere
      then you can’t switch it. and if a specific period is specified, such
      as period_h1, then you can.

      Still not the fact that it will be possible. The robot will be reinstantiated when changing the timeframe, and accordingly, all data that
      is stored in variables in the global visibility zone, or in class fields, will be forgotten… 

      For example, many bots just record the opening price in the class field constantly, and after clearing it will change and if the bot is reinstantiated
      , it will record the wrong price.

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      2020-12-18T11:03:16+00:00Added an answer on December 18, 2020 at 11:03 am

      GAGARIN:
      Does it matter to the robot what timeframe I have on the chart now? Here I have
      a robot is connected, which showed, in the tester, a good result on the watch. I set it up and connected it, and now I want to
      view the daily report. Do I need to open another chart window?

      Depends on the programmer who wrote this Expert Advisor. If PERIOD_CURRENT is written everywhere, then you can’t switch it. And
      if a specific period is specified, such
      as PERIOD_H1, then you can.

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